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DucatMH

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Raw Carbon Dream Kits for Sale on Ebay - My Experiences
« on: April 28, 2014, 01:16:27 PM »
Hey guys/gals.  Just wanted to post a heads up regarding the "Raw" Carbon Dream Kits that pop up on ebay.  I made a purchase late last year.  The kit comes as described in the auctions:  Raw, Scratched, Unfinished and somewhat flawed.  So no surprise when mine arrived.  It did have some white pen markings with circles drawn around the larger flaws and the letter "D" written in a few places.  This led me to wonder, are these kits that were made very early in the process while they were still working out the kinks and had too many flaws to make it worth the time to repair and finish?  One has to wonder?  It would certainly be a question worth asking the seller before bidding in the future.  In the area I live, there are no shops that I felt comfortable with to repair/finish Carbon Fiber so I sent the kit out to California.  Upon evaluation, he felt that after a number of coats of epoxy he would have it to a satisfactory state.  He is still working on the project but feels it is coming along nicely.  He did question the amount and significance of the flaws, posing the same query as to why these were never actually finished by Carbon Dream.  He thought it was likely a Quality Control issue.  Of course the other issue is the lack of Carbon Dream Decals.  I thought these would be easier to come by, but no dice.  This painter has the ability to fabricate decals and suspects that he will be painting on the silver and red accents. Regardless it sounds like he will be finished with the Kit in another 2 weeks.  Once I receive it, I will be sure to post pictures here and my thoughts on the end product.   Quick Disclaimer:  I am not suggesting that the seller is misrepresenting the product.  I just want to make sure any potential purchasers have a true understanding of the road ahead to reach a product that rivals the factory finished Carbon Dream Kit.
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2014, 07:21:13 AM »
Here are a few images in progress.  They are mostly finished at this point.  He says there are still a few flaws that he won't be able to remedy. 

I can't seem to embed the pictures in the post.  Any tips?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/111424432@N04/sets/72157644425184995/
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2014, 02:08:55 PM »
Thank you for your feedback!
Do you have any idea of the time spent? The cost?
Can't wait to see it finished.

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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2014, 01:09:59 PM »
Just uploaded some close-ups of the way the parts looked when they arrived from Italy.  They are pictures of some of the worst flaws. 


https://www.flickr.com/photos/111424432@N04/sets/72157644425184995/
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2014, 02:42:35 PM »
He's making progress.  He is custom painting the silver and red detail and custom cutting the lettering.  Should be finished in the next few days.  I'll post final pictures of the finished body when he ships them back to me.
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2014, 02:23:13 AM »
Very nice work! Want one :)

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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2014, 07:03:30 AM »
Thanks Matthieu.  I'll let you know the time it took him when he wraps it up.  Here is another picture he sent this morning.

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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2014, 04:49:48 AM »
Any news? More pictures?  ;D

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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2014, 07:38:36 AM »
He shipped it back to me Monday this past week.  Should be here on Tuesday this week since there is a Holiday.  I'll post pics and impressions when it arrives.  He did tell me that one of the imperfections had to be filled though is not visible now that it is finished.  Again, I suspect that these kits being sold by Ducatiparts.it on eBay were probably kits that never made it past quality control or at least the kit that I purchased.
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2014, 01:02:20 PM »
Wow. DucatiMH, it looks awesome. I purchased from him last year also and my finished product will be done here next week also. I went the route of painting them. I also knew what I was getting prior to ordering, however, the weight difference is significant. I have to get some photos of mine uploaded. I'm very impressed that your guy got that quality out of those carbon skinz.
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2014, 07:48:11 PM »
Thanks Bolt!  John has done a great job with what he was given so I can't complain there.  I really do wish I would've known that "RAW and has some scratches" was not quite an accurate and fair description.  Of course I had no idea just how bad it was until I sent it to someone the body shop otherwise I would've requested replacement.  In retrospect, Ducatiparts.it should provide detailed photos of the kits and any significant flaws that are present rather than a generic photo that I think gets used kit after kit.  Kind of ridiculous if you ask me and even more so that I was naive enough to not request them first.  Bolt, I don't know how your parts arrived, but the nose piece had a void that someone had attempted to use filler on and the filler was collapsing. John repaired the void as best he could, I have attached an image of the area that was the worst post repair.  It's about 2.5 cm x 1.5 cm and on the lower edge, not directly visible but still hacks me that I didn't know this when I purchased.  Oh well.  Buyer beware.  I'll post more images once I have unwrapped the remaining bits
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2014, 09:34:43 PM »
I ordered the kit about two years ago, saw the condition and tossed the pieces into the loft above my garage...I'd love to find someone who has the experience with these kits and can put a nice paint job down. Looking forward to your updates!
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2014, 07:28:18 PM »
I took some decent pictures and put them up on my FLCKR page.  As I stated, the end result is excellent.  Only flaw is the flaw that was present on the body when it shipped to me.  If you have one of these kits that need to be finished, reach out to John with finishingtouch4u.com and tell him that Matt referred you over.

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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2014, 07:45:41 PM »
That looks great, Matt. thanks for posting the pics. I'll see what your guy can do for me.
CJ
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2014, 09:27:12 PM »
That looks great, Matt. thanks for posting the pics. I'll see what your guy can do for me.
CJ

You bet CJ.  Good luck with the kit.  Hopefully yours is in better shape than mine.
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